NLSC Podcast #521: No NBA License? No Problem!

Talk about the NLSC Podcast, Monday Tip-Off, Wayback Wednesday, The Friday Five, Top 10 Plays of the Week, and our Parsec Tournaments! This is also a section for NLSC and community announcements, and other site-related topics.

Re: NLSC Podcast #410: Community Wishes For NBA 2K23

Postby Andrew on Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:13 am

It was a really fun conversation. We'll definitely be having more guests from the community on this year, in addition to any developers/personalities we can arrange a chat with.
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Re: NLSC Podcast #410: Community Wishes For NBA 2K23

Postby Andrew on Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:14 am

NLSC Podcast #410: Community Wishes For NBA 2K23

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We had an exciting modding breakthrough this week, which means our All-Time Teams roster mod for NBA Live 96 PC is going to feature a detail that we could only dream of having back in the day! Our NBA Jam: On Fire Edition Tournament has also produced some great action so far, and once again, everyone seems to be having a fantastic time with it. Seeing as how it's Wishlist season, this week's extended mailbag segment is dedicated to what the community wants to see in NBA 2K23. We read out the suggestions that our listeners sent in, and give our thoughts on some great ideas for the next NBA 2K game.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #411: A Chat With Nate & Roger, NBA Live 2001 Enthusiasts

Postby Andrew on Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:25 am

NLSC Podcast #411: A Chat With Nate & Roger, NBA Live 2001 Enthusiasts

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Special Guests: Nate & Roger

We have two more guests from the community this week, as we're joined by Nate and Roger. The duo run the NBA Live 2001 Highlights account on Instagram, and also have a YouTube channel. They discuss their love of NBA Live 2001, which they've been enthusiastically playing for over 20 years. Suffice to say, they certainly know the game inside and out! From generic jumping ratings and a unique Create-a-Player feature to gameplay mechanics and the most effective strategies, there's plenty to reflect on. Nate and Roger also talk about other old basketball video games that they play, and their thoughts on recent NBA 2K games. We also reminisce about some of the players that we grew up watching, especially those who became Virtual Hardwood Legends.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #412: Community Wishlist For NBA Live 23

Postby Andrew on Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:09 pm

NLSC Podcast #412: Community Wishlist For NBA Live 23

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After last week's show, we've been moved to revisit NBA Live 2001 and NBA Live 2002. Though both were controversial releases in our community, they definitely have their bright spots. Speaking of old NBA Live games, work continues on our All-Time Teams Roster for NBA Live 96 PC. There's also been an exciting development as far as modding NBA Live 10 on PlayStation 3. As for the future of the series, while NBA Live 23 hasn't been announced, it's clear that we're not the only basketball gamers hoping that the series will return. We discuss the likelihood of it finally happening this year, and revisit our expectations. We then open up the mailbag to discuss the community's Wishlist for a hypothetical NBA Live 23.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #412: Community Wishlist For NBA Live 23

Postby Andrew on Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:11 am

Mailbag Call!

If NBA Live does not come back, which 5 on 5 NBA video game series would you choose to return, and why?

- NBA Shootout
- NBA in the Zone
- NBA Inside Drive
- NBA Courtside
- Other
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Re: NLSC Podcast #413: More NBA Video Games, Please

Postby Andrew on Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:40 pm

NLSC Podcast #413: More NBA Video Games, Please

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Catching up on the latest results from our NBA Jam: On Fire Edition Tournament, we reflect on a truly epic comeback! We also recap the fun we had connecting on Parsec to play NBA Live 2004 PC with the 1996 season mod, another exciting countdown with the Top 10 Plays, and recent fun going back to an NBA 2K14 MyCAREER save. This week's main topic is the variety of NBA video games that we used to enjoy. We open up the mailbag to see which NBA video games the community most wants to see return instead of (or in the best case scenario, in addition to) NBA Live, and discuss our memories of those titles.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #414: Pump Us Up, Don't Leave Us Deflated

Postby Andrew on Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:50 pm

NLSC Podcast #414: Pump Us Up, Don't Leave Us Deflated

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Does the community still feel the same excitement and anticipation for the latest release every year? We open up the mailbag to discuss the titles that basketball gamers felt the most hyped about, as well as the factors that have dampened our enthusiasm over the past decade or so. We also recap another fun week in basketball gaming, which included a return to Fantasy Teams in NBA Live 10, heroics from Steve Kerr in NBA Live 95, a surprising challenge playing NBA Live 2003 PC co-op, and a new take on NBA Live 15. There also the latest games from our NBA Jam: On Fire Edition Tournament to recap, and a tale of retro collecting disappointment to share.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #415: Being The NBA 2K Playmaker

Postby Andrew on Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:25 am

NLSC Podcast #415: Being The NBA 2K Playmaker

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What would you do if you were made the Gameplay Director for NBA 2K? We discuss our visions for the series, and open up the mailbag to find out what the community would do if they were in the driver's seat. Our Parsec sessions over the past week also produced some incredibly fun games with NBA Jam: On Fire Edition and NBA Live 2001, and we've been challenged to aim for a statistical goal in the latter. Speaking of which, recent attempts to curb turnovers and reach milestones in NBA 2K14 MyCAREER raises the question: do we psyche ourselves out when we're trying to pad stats and set records on the virtual hardwood?

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Re: NLSC Podcast #416: Three Games & An Island

Postby Andrew on Sun Feb 27, 2022 11:12 pm

NLSC Podcast #416: Three Games & An Island

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In an exciting development, NBA Live 2001 enthusiasts Nate and Roger are on Parsec, which means a 2v2 showdown is in our future! Speaking of Parsec, our recent sessions have given us a new appreciation for a couple of often-criticised games in the NBA Live series. Our NBA Jam: On Fire Edition Tournament also wrapped up, and it ended in spectacular fashion. Dipping into our collection as we often do leaves us wondering: which three games would we take with us to an island we'd be stuck on indefinitely? We share our answers, and open up the mailbag to see which games the community would pick. With February drawing to a close, we also look ahead to March Modness.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #417: Picking an All-Virtual Hardwood Team

Postby Andrew on Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:14 pm

NLSC Podcast #417: Picking an All-Virtual Hardwood Team

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Our College Hoops 2K8 Tournament is set to tip off! Talking about college basketball games leads us to ponder whether EA Sports' best move would be to revive their NCAA series before they attempt another comeback with NBA Live. We also reflect on the madness of collecting retro basketball games, the size of our respective collections, and the current prices in retro video game stores and on eBay alike. We're also interested in spending more time with a cancelled Sega Genesis game starring Shaquille O'Neal that was leaked a few years back. This week's mailbag topic is all about picking our All-Virtual Hardwood teams. We share our selections, along with the community's picks.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #418: House Rules, Epic Duels, & Offline Views

Postby Andrew on Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:11 pm

NLSC Podcast #418: House Rules, Epic Duels, & Offline Views

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Mad as it may seem, we were compelled to revisit NBA Live 07 for Xbox 360 this week. It's as rough as we remembered, and doesn't hold a candle to NBA Live 06 on the same platform, which was a far more fun game to dust off! The College Hoops 2K8 Tournament has also been a blast to play and to watch, with the Sweet 16 almost in the books. After catching up on some recent stories from NBA 2K14 MyCAREER, we discuss house rules when playing against the CPU. What's the best way to ensure fairness, and challenge? In this week's mailbag, we're talking about ideas for offline modes and content. As you might expect, the community isn't just about the online experience these days!

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Re: NLSC Podcast #419: All Kinds of Madness This March

Postby Andrew on Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:10 am

NLSC Podcast #419: All Kinds of Madness This March

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A Tweet from the official EA Sports account has sparked rumours of a new college basketball game. We're trying not to get ahead of ourselves, but we're definitely interested! Speaking of March Madness, our College Hoops 2K8 Tournament continues to produce epic showdowns as it enters the Elite 8. NCAA Basketball 10, NBA Live 10, NBA Live 2001 and NBA Jam: On Fire Edition have also been in the rotation, as more community members jump aboard the Parsec train. After previewing some forthcoming mods for NBA 2K19 and NBA 2K10, we open up the mailbag to discuss PC gaming setups. The community shares stories of how they're enjoying PC basketball gaming, from hardware and peripherals to where their rig is set up to play.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #420: The Legend of Keyon Dooling

Postby Andrew on Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:15 am

NLSC Podcast #420: The Legend of Keyon Dooling

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Inspired by QB1120's stories of Keyon Dooling in NBA 2K7, we fired up the game to see what the fuss was all about. Turns out, we have a newly-minted Video Game Legend! We also connected with Brent and NBA Live Girl for a 4-player session of NBA Jam: On Fire Edition that none of us wanted to end. After recapping some other recent adventures on the virtual hardwood, we talk about the reason we're able to play so many basketball video games: our passion for collecting. We open up the mailbag to talk about the games that our listeners wish that they owned, as well as some of the purchases that they regret.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #421: Arcade Basketball Games Are On Fire!

Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:36 pm

NLSC Podcast #421: Arcade Basketball Games Are On Fire!

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We love sim basketball titles, but we also have a great deal of affection for arcade games as well. Recent sessions with the underrated NBA Hangtime, and a brief stream of NBA Jam: On Fire Edition, lead us to reflect on some of the best and worst releases in the genre. As always, we also catch up on other games we've been playing over the past week, including NBA 2K22, NBA Showdown, and NBA 2K14. One of us has also added a true gem to their collection, leaving the other to feel a tad envious! In this week's mailbag, we're talking about our go-to plays in various basketball video games, and one-off hoops titles that deserved a sequel (or possibly even a series).

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Re: NLSC Podcast #422: NBA Live 2000 Is Still Shak'n the Floor

Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:39 pm

NLSC Podcast #422: NBA Live 2000 Is Still Shak'n the Floor

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Thanks to DOSBox, Lakers vs. Celtics is still playable on a Windows 10 PC in 2022! We reflect on the game that tipped off what became the NBA Live series, and some of the incredible features it had for a title released in 1989. Speaking of classic basketball games from EA Sports, we also revisited NBA Live 2000. Suffice to say that we were blown away by how well it held up, not to mention the quality of the faces. Our College Hoops 2K8 Tournament drew to a close with an epic game that had some entertaining real life parallels, and the finale has us looking forward to future tournaments. We also recap another fun week in basketball gaming, which included playing the 1995 season in NBA 2K19, Year 3 of NBA 2K14 MyCAREER rolling on, and firing up Microsoft Complete NBA Basketball, a literal interactive almanac.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #423: Heighten The Basketball Gaming Parabola

Postby Andrew on Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:07 am

NLSC Podcast #423: Heighten The Basketball Gaming Parabola

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International Basketball 2009 may be one of the top three worst hoops games we've ever played, but on the bright side, it's given us a new catchphrase! We also threw it way back this week by revisiting NBA Basketball for Intellivision, while having some more fun with NBA Live 2001 and NBA Hangtime over Parsec. In this week's NBA 2K14 MyCAREER update, a two-time champion is traded, and Terry Hanson continues to impress. As for NBA 2K19 MyLEAGUE with the 1995 season mod, it continues to be a blast, with plenty of trash talk! The mailbag also returns this week as we discuss your suggestions for future content, as well as our Holy Grails of basketball video game collecting.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #424: The Many Ways We Play Basketball Games

Postby Andrew on Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:36 pm

NLSC Podcast #424: The Many Ways We Play Basketball Games

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NBA Live 2000 PC is back in the rotation, delighting with its gameplay. However, its presentation also leads to a surprising revelation, and a tribute to the late Don Poier. Once again, we can't rule out some retro modding projects for the game! We also circle back to the potential tease of a new college basketball game, and reflect on missed opportunities with EA's marketing of its hoops titles. As always, we provide updates on what we've been playing, including the latest progress in NBA 2K19 MyLEAGUE using the 1995 season mod, and Year 3 of NBA 2K14 MyCAREER. This week's mailbag is all about how the community likes to spend its time on the virtual hardwood, and we received plenty of interesting answers covering a variety of modes.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #425: Sliding Back Into 1995, With Stildo33

Postby Andrew on Mon May 02, 2022 8:10 pm

NLSC Podcast #425: Sliding Back Into 1995, With Stildo33

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Ken (aka Stildo33) returns to the show to talk about replaying the 1995 season in NBA 2K19 MyLEAGUE! In addition to a little trash talk, there are reflections on some of the favourite games so far, exciting upcoming matchups, and learning new skills on the virtual hardwood. We also talk about the importance of fine-tuning gameplay sliders, and some of the issues that NBA 2K19 had out of the box. A couple of ideas for future Parsec tournaments are also floated for your consideration! With the preview season of NBA 2K23 looming on the horizon, and the continued hope that EA Sports will return with a new basketball game at some point, we also touch on some of our Wishlist items.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #426: Variety & Options on The Virtual Hardwood

Postby Andrew on Tue May 17, 2022 3:20 am

NLSC Podcast #426: Variety & Options on The Virtual Hardwood

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After an unscheduled break due to one of us being under the weather, we're back on the air! We've been playing a variety of classic basketball games since our last show, particularly favourites from the late 90s and early 2000s. Notably, we've been playing them with some classic teams and legends roster mods, which is tempting us to get stuck into some retro modding. We also provide updates on our ongoing seasons, including Shawn Kemp highlights and an example of video games imitating life. On a less positive note, a couple of recent Tweets have reminded us that elitism and gatekeeping is alive and well within the basketball gaming community. Needless to say, we feel compelled to hit back against those attitudes. In this week's mailbag, the community tells us their favourite games in the NBA Live series, and we share our thoughts on those titles.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #427: Classic Games, Fresh Experiences

Postby Andrew on Sun May 22, 2022 11:47 pm

NLSC Podcast #427: Classic Games, Fresh Experiences

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We've been freshening up our retro basketball gaming with mods from the archives, as Lutz's Champs Roster allowed us to re-create a classic Celtics highlight in NBA Live 98 PC! We also played NBA Live 2004 PC with a camera mod that's made it difficult to return to the default broadcast view. Responding to an interesting listener question, we discuss whether adopting a similar idea to Dynamic DNA could benefit tendencies and roster quality in NBA 2K. As we catch up on the latest news from our NBA 2K19 MyLEAGUE and NBA 2K14 MyCAREER games, we marvel at the stories that can be told through gameplay and results alone. We also reflect on a truly shocking award snub.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #427: Classic Games, Fresh Experiences

Postby Ermolli on Wed May 25, 2022 11:38 am

I enjoyed your NBA Live 2004 video, really great highlights. As you said, you can see the suction during some two-player animations, like Jordan going for a layup to his left and makes contact midair to his right with Drexler, it gets annoying when sometimes it makes you miss sure points. I don’t remember well but was the hop-step that overpowered in the following games? From memory it wasn’t as much in Live 2005 and 06 but was quite effective.
That camera mod is quite good, makes it a refreshing experience. Does it work for Live 06?

I like Andrew's 2K14 MyCareer updates, it's quite engaging to follow the storylines and how things develop. How many people do you think that play MyCareer follow the standings, stats and storylines? With playing/grinding with the mode to play online, I don’t know if many try to enjoy the experience of the mode instead of focusing on having as much stats and possible and upgrade their ratings, it kinda loses the point of the mode. What do you think about it?

I agree with what you’ve mentioned in a previous podcast, the feel is more important than visuals. As you’ve said, the couple last Live games had several nice animations but the gameplay from the PS4/Xbox One generation felt too stiff for me which didn’t help. As mentioned before, despite having suction and fewer animations in old games, they felt a lot more responsive and, while limited, more satisfying. I’m not trying to say that games have to be ultra-responsive to the point that it feels arcade, but trying to find a good balance which is easier said than done.
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Re: NLSC Podcast #427: Classic Games, Fresh Experiences

Postby Andrew on Wed May 25, 2022 3:46 pm

There's a similar camera mod for NBA Live 06, and I'd have to say it's just as good! Definitely worth checking out. The Pro Hop wasn't quite as OP in later games, but we also had a slider to control its effectiveness if we weren't satisfied with its performance either way.

Glad you like the MyCAREER updates! I'd say that more recent games absolutely have you focusing on the grind to level up rather than the experience, which is why going back to NBA 2K14 has been so refreshing. I've enjoyed taking the time to peruse all the stats, standings, and news screens to get an idea of what's going on around the league. It's way more immersive, and way less toxic than competing in the online scene. I do like putting up stats and challenging myself to set records and whatnot, but I agree that immersing yourself in the experience and indulging in some imagination is what makes franchise/career modes special.

When it comes to NBA Live on the eighth generation (PS4/X1), I've always said that when something looks good, it looks really good. The problem is that apart from those standout animations, there's a lot of clunky ones, and that clunkiness also extends to the way the games feel on the sticks.
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Re: NLSC Podcast #427: Classic Games, Fresh Experiences

Postby Ermolli on Thu May 26, 2022 3:04 am

From what I understand (haven't played every recent 2K game), the XP given is lower through the years which makes the grind more prevalent. However, by having MyCareer connected with the online gaming, the one interested in the later feels forced to play MyCareer, which makes people not appreciate it.
I don't know if separating both (like Live did) would help or hurt the MyCareer experience. One one hand, people who play the mode would do it by genuine interest, so the immersion would or could be greater. On the other hand, maybe if it was that way not many would play the mode, resulting in less investment in it and would hurt the ones who do play it.

EA didn't really fix those problems. It felt like they tried to improve something (locomotion, animations, responsiveness) which had a bad foundation. It'd been better to start from scratch in that area but they mustn't had the time nor investment to do so, resulting in clunky gameplay.
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Re: NLSC Podcast #428: Time To Dust Off Those Old Modding Tools

Postby Andrew on Mon May 30, 2022 12:35 am

NLSC Podcast #428: Time To Dust Off Those Old Modding Tools

Hosts: Andrew & Dee4Three

We had a lot of fun revisiting NBA Live 06 PC recently, using the last NLSC roster to play with the Dream Team and updated Decade All-Stars. We did spy a couple of oversights though, leading to the temptation to pick up the old tools and fix them. Indeed, the lure to mod old favourites remains strong! Some recent events prompt us to comment on one of our pet peeves: bewildering Dislikes on YouTube videos. Rumours of a possible sale or merger for EA have been making the rounds, so we weigh in with our thoughts on the situation. We also catch up on the latest from the 1995 MyLEAGUE in NBA 2K19, and reflect on the immersive nature of retro season mods. Meanwhile, NBA 2K14 MyCAREER has produced the worst virtual NBA Finalists either of us have ever encountered.

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Re: NLSC Podcast #427: Classic Games, Fresh Experiences

Postby Andrew on Mon May 30, 2022 12:09 pm

Ermolli wrote:From what I understand (haven't played every recent 2K game), the XP given is lower through the years which makes the grind more prevalent. However, by having MyCareer connected with the online gaming, the one interested in the later feels forced to play MyCareer, which makes people not appreciate it.
I don't know if separating both (like Live did) would help or hurt the MyCareer experience. One one hand, people who play the mode would do it by genuine interest, so the immersion would or could be greater. On the other hand, maybe if it was that way not many would play the mode, resulting in less investment in it and would hurt the ones who do play it.

EA didn't really fix those problems. It felt like they tried to improve something (locomotion, animations, responsiveness) which had a bad foundation. It'd been better to start from scratch in that area but they mustn't had the time nor investment to do so, resulting in clunky gameplay.


Separating the NBA side of MyCAREER from the online scene would have its benefits, but the problem is if you're grinding up a player for use in both, it's convenient to be able to switch back and forth and continue to make progress. It's unfortunate that gamers who prefer offline/NBA MyCAREER are forced into online play to unlock certain benefits, and that gamers who prefer the online scene are forced into using the NBA side of the mode to grind just so they can be competitive. People accept it because they don't really have a choice, but it's not an ideal situation.

After the cancellation of NBA Elite 11, it doesn't seem like NBA Live has truly had time to rebuild. We thought they were taking a couple of years when they decided to skip the 2012 season, but they were in fact rebuilding the team and performing research. NBA Live 13 was rough as a result, it got scrapped, and then they only had a year to work on NBA Live 14. They dug themselves a huge hole in that respect.
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