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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby briggm on Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:03 am

The continued support you guys are putting into this mod is outstanding, much respect to all of you for your hard work. Looking forward to the next update whenever it's ready.

I wish I had time to really help out, but I can at least share that I've noticed that Elliot Perry in (I think) the 91,93 and 94 rosters is incorrectly listed as righthanded when actually he was a lefty.

Also Ron Harper on those early Clippers teams has primary position PG, however he was always the starting SG at that time. I'm pretty sure he only ever played the point once he joined the Bulls.

That's all minor stuff though and I only mention it in the name of accuracy. (Y)
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby Culture Games on Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:09 am

briggm wrote:The continued support you guys are putting into this mod is outstanding, much respect to all of you for your hard work. Looking forward to the next update whenever it's ready.

I wish I had time to really help out, but I can at least share that I've noticed that Elliot Perry in (I think) the 91,93 and 94 rosters is incorrectly listed as righthanded when actually he was a lefty.

Also Ron Harper on those early Clippers teams has primary position PG, however he was always the starting SG at that time. I'm pretty sure he only ever played the point once he joined the Bulls.

That's all minor stuff though and I only mention it in the name of accuracy. (Y)


Everybody can help, even in ways just like this. If its wrong, we want it corrected, and thats going to be my responsibility from now on. Just make sure you check out the latest updates when they come out to make sure what your mentioning isn't something already fixed. Thank you.
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby sticky-fingers on Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:21 am

Teasing the next update :

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PeaceManNot did an amazing job on the arena and Bruin's banners ; arena is still in WIP but you guys will love it !
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby knich on Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:46 pm

sticky-fingers wrote:Teasing the next update :

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PeaceManNot did an amazing job on the arena and Bruin's banners ; arena is still in WIP but you guys will love it !


Wow...simply amazing work. These games got the wrong program designers/creators.

I don't remember seeing dynamic (less than full house) attendance except in last minute of game. Was this added?
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby knich on Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:53 pm

Lady Culture wrote:I don’t have to tell you all about the unprecedented accuracy of this mods artwork, graphics, presentation, sneakers, etc. So I just want to explain where we are at currently and going forward with the roster aspect. Some of you who have been staying up to date on the rosters have noticed some subtle improvements, and the good news is you'll see much more going forward


Mission Statement


Since November of last year, a new layer of work has been getting done, mostly behind the scenes, to the rosters to provide better gameplay, and more accurate simulations. For too long these past players in retro rosters were treated too conservatively. People who weren’t sure what to do with them gave them conservative stats. Stats and abilities below what we’d see with current era players.. I’m of the belief that this era was as good or better than any other era of talent in the NBA and this is finally reflected in that. No more conservative, broad strokes for all, because we are now confident in our research and numbers. No more players having numbers based off of seasons where they only played in 3 games, either. The best passers, dunkers, shooters, shot blockers in this era were not 80-90 level players in those areas. They were 95-99 level, and beyond that in some cases. An attempt has been made to scale all players with one another.

This level of detailing goes All the way down to specific body part injuries. Ever wonder why that player is wearing a knee pad on his right knee? Now you’ll know when you look at his physical chart. You’ll find little details like this throughout that will make you smile and nod.

Non All Star Players are no longer generic, the aim is to give them as much detail or more than you’d see a current player have in the modern 2K roster. For many players compared to what we had before, it’s the difference between a rough outline sketch, and a detailed portrait. Or they had the template of a current NBA Player. Where as before if we didn’t have info on a bench center, we assumed he played like a typical center. Now, you may see a certain center who played away from the basket will be set to do so.

Players now have quirks, badges, injury histories, personality traits, proper play assignments, and more.

People have commented on improved gameplay, and while there’s limits to where you can push this game, and any game for that matter, we have made the proper adjustments for the era. That means mid range game, much more post ups, much harder fouls, less threes, and overall more physicality.

This work is now done for 1989, and will be in the next release of that roster. That base will be used as we go backwards.

I’ll continue to do edits on each season as we go backward (-1988) and forward (1995-) and the whole team has a system in place to progress along. The amount of talent on the team in all areas has made it so we can have one person like myself who can focus ENTIRELY on the player ratings and tendencies themselves. And I’m very thankful for that. This is my passion. But If there’s any suggestions for how to push it further toward realism, or any oversights, I want to know them. I understand why that was done due to a lack of information. But no more. Stildo told me he wanted to take this mod to another level, to be "next gen" successor to the UBR, and so I am trying to do my part fulfill this vision .This is not about ego for me, it is about accurately representing history of the league we love (or loved). I know that is the same feelings for the rest of the team. Enjoy these coming updates and keep us updated with your experiences.


I keep saying Wow because I really am blown away by this group's work. It helps bring back great memories of the era and when basketball was IMO at its best. Now..I will have to restart my season..lol.
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby coolbreeze24 on Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:28 am

Still trying to get my Magic vs Bird NBA Finals. Got both to the Conference Finals. Mike and Bulls have made things a bit difficult. I managed to fight off an elimination with a crazy Game 5 led by Bird and McHale.

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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby smatz151 on Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:55 pm

Does anyone one out there have a Nike Air Force Max CB to use with the 1994 roster? If not, any possibility this could be done in one of the updates?

https://www.goat.com/sneakers/air-force ... OZEALw_wcB
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby Stildo33 on Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:15 am

coolbreeze24 wrote:Still trying to get my Magic vs Bird NBA Finals. Got both to the Conference Finals. Mike and Bulls have made things a bit difficult. I managed to fight off an elimination with a crazy Game 5 led by Bird and McHale.

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Nice blowout! Keeping them alive!
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby DaPrazident5B on Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:09 am

Incredible level of detail.
Can't wait to try this out!!!
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby jalex1522 on Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:34 pm

For when the new update?
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby Stildo33 on Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:47 pm

jalex1522 wrote:For when the new update?


HOPING, HOPING, HOPING to update late this week.
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby BuckCity on Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:06 am

how can i update the rosters now that the 2k servers are down??
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby Stildo33 on Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:47 am

BuckCity wrote:how can i update the rosters now that the 2k servers are down??


Yes, you'll be able to add/use rosters. Just requires an extra step, but it's literally 30-60 seconds. :D
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby BuckCity on Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:13 am

What's the extra step??
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby Stildo33 on Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:52 pm

BuckCity wrote:What's the extra step??



Watch how Dee4Three installs rosters for his MOD. It will be the same process. Start video at 10:30 or so. Once you've done it a couple of times, it takes less than 60seconds.

https://youtu.be/elRbzz3XXug
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby BuckCity on Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:22 am

There's no roster files in the 89-94 season download file.
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby marillo on Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:14 am

BuckCity wrote:There's no roster files in the 89-94 season download file.


+1, can you share this files, please?
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby Andrew on Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:55 pm

I believe those files are coming in the next release, reflecting the change brought about by the server shutdown. Hence why Stildo33 mentioned that "it will be the same process", and not that you can do it right now.
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby BuckCity on Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:17 am

Are u guys still taking suggestions when it comes to players attributes??? Magic Johnson ballhandling is WAYYYYYYYYYY too high. I dont know what games the devs at 2k be watching. But he was never good enough 2 have a 94 ballhanding rating. It should be at 80 at best. Magic wasnt the best at breaking down above average to elite defenders with his ball in hand game. Same with lebron. They rely more on just running through you.
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby makaveli2040 on Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:43 am

Any progress?
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby HornetsOnFire on Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:24 am

Highlights (with NBA on NBC music) and screenshots from my game Orlando (me) vs Washington (CPU), roster 1993/1994 season.

Look for my beautiful buzzer beater 3 by Penny Hardaway!
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I am proud of the resemblance to his real shot (I edited his jumpshot, present in the future update 93/94)
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And I love the priceless reaction of the Washington Bullets players (Chapman and Cheaney get their heads down, Adams and Duckworth are down).
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2nd video: Here is a real Shaq Attak on the head of the giant Muresan.
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I love this game
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby Stildo33 on Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:15 pm

makaveli2040 wrote:Any progress?


Yes. Sorry, the team is waiting on me for a couple of updates on stuff so we can release. I've been delayed for like a week now with RL stuff. I'm getting to it this week (thought would be today finally) so team can add final touches. No worries, just means a few more CFs will be added now. :)

Next update still imminent but may take a week still!
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby coolbreeze24 on Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:43 am

HornetsOnFire wrote:Highlights (with NBA on NBC music) and screenshots from my game Orlando (me) vs Washington (CPU), roster 1993/1994 season.

Look for my beautiful buzzer beater 3 by Penny Hardaway!
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I am proud of the resemblance to his real shot (I edited his jumpshot, present in the future update 93/94)
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And I love the priceless reaction of the Washington Bullets players (Chapman and Cheaney get their heads down, Adams and Duckworth are down).
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2nd video: Here is a real Shaq Attak on the head of the giant Muresan.
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I love this game



Well done. So much immersion. :applaud:
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby jalex1522 on Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:55 pm

Any progress?
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Re: CLASSIC SEASONS MOD ** 1994 & 1989 RELEASED ** 90,91,92,93 SEASONS OUT NOW

Postby Stildo33 on Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:23 am

jalex1522 wrote:Any progress?


Hey man! Yes, tons. So much so that its REALLY backing things up.

Long story short, we got a new tool to use for editing. It lets us do SOOOOO many things now that we couldn't do before. For example some players, like Scott Burrell on the 94, have their name changed by the PC automatically. This is stupid and drives me insane. Our new tool though will let us make the change it the game won't change the name. This is just one of many examples where it's adding tons of extra time. I apologize!

I may release the most recent versions of everything offline since the files themselves area already available. We have tons and tons of new CFs being included in this update too. Oh and original arenas with all their banners, etc. Lots of great stuff!

Lastly, the newest tool may allows us to add in player stats.....I won't delay a release just to take extra time adding that but it might something we add in future rosters if it works correctly. :)
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