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GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby bktr025 on Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:34 am

Recently I found out that it is possible to convert NBA 2K21 shoes to use on NBA 2K20 and I want to share that information with the community. I’m gonna try to explain (although I’m not the best at teaching). In general, I think it’s a “simple” process but can take some time, especially if you don’t know a lot about modding. Be aware that there’s some trial and error involved. Some Photoshop skills are also needed for the last part.

*Tools needed:
- NBA2K21 File Batch Exporter (https://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.php?f=267&t=110593&p=2021940#p2021940) / to export the iff files from your 2K21 game.
- NBA2K File Batch Exporter Console (https://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.php?f=258&t=109295&hilit=export+console) / to export from 2K20 (you can also use NBA 2K17 Software).
- 7-Zip / to edit the iff files.
- Notepad ++ / to search the manifest for the files you want the export. This is needed for both File Batch Exporter tools.
- Photoshop (maybe other similar softwares work, only when they support dds).
- Nvidia AND Intel dds plugins for Photoshop.

*Exporting
1. First, you need to export some files: the files of the NBA 2K21 shoe you want to convert and the files of the NBA 2K20 shoe that is gonna be replaced by that 2K21 shoe. In this case (as an example) I’m going to replace the Curry 3 already in the game with the RS Dreamer from 2K21 (although pay attention to point 11 in the Import part of the guide).
2. The files that I needed to export are the geo files and the shoe files. Geo files are where the model of the shoe is. Shoe files are the ones that give the texture, color and details to the shoe. In this case, I only needed the full/geo + shoe_sm and shoe_ng to make the new shoe model work. To create a design for that shoe you need the shoe_ed file. You can also export the shoe_fe file, if you want the preview picture.

*Import the 2K21 model into 2K20
1. This is the “simple” part of the process. Like I said before, I only needed the full geo (but if you want to be sure, can also export the lod23 and park version and do the same things I’m gonna explain later). Taking the example into consideration, I had to export from “clothing/full/clothing_resource_shoes_pumarsdreamer_geo.iff” and “clothing/full/clothing_resource_shoes_curry3_geo.iff”.
2. As the picture below shows, the structure of the geo/full.iff files is the same: 1 SelectionSets file, 1 player.model file, 5 player_LODShape.model files and 1 shoes.SCNE file. I recommend to put all the files on the 2K21 shoe (in this example, the RS Dreamer files) on a folder.
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3. With that in mind, the only thing needed is to change the filename of all the RS Dreamer files to their Curry 3 counterpart, EXCEPT the .SCNE file (it’s better to copy paste the names from one file to another). For example, “pumarsdreamer_selectionset.SelectionSets” is gonna be named “curry3_selectionset.SelectionSets”.
4. When all the filenames have been changed, drag all of those files of the RS Dreamer (again, except the. SCNE file) and put them inside “clothing_resource_shoes_curry3_geo.iff” (using 7-Zip). If you want to be sure, do the same with the lod23 and park geos.
* IMPORTANT: To fix the glitch shown below, after everything is done with the geo, open the .SCNE file (in this case, "shoes_airjordan4_laser.SCNE") inside "clothing_resource_shoes_airjordan4_laser_geo.iff" with Notepad++ and at the end, after "Lods": [. change everything only what's between the quote marks from "player_LODShape1" to just "player". Do the same with every "player_LODShape". The final result should say:
"player",
"player",
"player",
"player",
"player"
(big thanks to sitew33 for the solution)
5. Now it’s time for the shoe_ng. As the picture below shows, both shoe_ng.iff files have the same structure (something that will happen with almost every shoe). In this case, the idea is to change the name of only the dds files of the RS Dreamer (shoe_ng_7607.iff) and paste those inside the Curry 3 (shoe_ng_4012.iff). You can look at the shoe lists (2K20 and 2K21) that I have in my signature if you want the ID of another shoe.
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6. Then, do the same with the shoe_sm. This time is only one dds that needs to be replaced. About the dds files, sometimes when copy pasting the name, the file ends “.dds.dds”; make sure that doesn’t happen (it can also happen with other file extensions).
7. The result should be the same as pictured below.
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8. The same can be done with shoe_fe, to have the right shoe preview picture.
9. However, I advise you look at the shoe in the Shoe Creator first; I don’t know the reason, but in some instances it can look like below. As I said at the beginning, some try and error is recommended.
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10. You can edit this shoe on the Shoe Creator, but only with one color, like the example below.
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11. As a plot twist, working on this I realized that there was something wrong. Before choosing the 2K20 shoe that is going to be replaced, is important to know if the shoe_ed files are compatible. By compatible, I mean that they have the same number of dds files and the same number of files with “_r_” on their filenames. That can be a pain in the butt, so I made a list to help. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18jtyGE5-L0BSeje_nVxBla0J6jKrmrmTvFj2tztjdNs/edit#gid=0

*Editing shoe_ed.iff
1. Before I start talking about editing the shoe_ed, I’m gonna explain the last part. Using the RS Dreamer as the example, that shoe has 26 total dds files (or layers) and 2 of those are “_r_”. Knowing that, search the list for a shoe that has 26 on column B and 2 on column C.
2. How to know the number of total layers (or dds files)? In this case, is the half of the total objects inside the shoe_ed_7607.iff file (the other half are the TXTR files). How to know the number of “_r_” layers? These are the files that have “_r_” on the filename, like tongue_logo_r_occlusion.7de5f65a8f114f6c.dds (these are usually logos).
3. What is a “_r_” layer? I tried to use only words, but I think a picture is gonna work best. If you look at it, the left shoe is looking okay, but the right shoe has the logos going to the wrong direction. The “_r_” layer is used to solve that problem and have the logos of the right shoe looking at the right direction.
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4. On the next steps, I’m going to explain what I did. Maybe there are better ways, but this worked. To edit the shoe_ed file, take every dds file from shoe_ed_7607.iff and put them on a folder. Also, have a shoe.normal.dds file from shoe_ng_7607.iff at hand. Do the same with the 2K20 shoe that you are gonna replace. I ended using Air Jordan IV Laser (ID: 5100).
5. Open the Photoshop of your choice (I use CC 2019) with both dds plugins installed. Then put all the dds files from one shoe into the same (psd) file (using only one window). After that, put the shoe.normal.dds on top and set the blending mode of that as “Multiply” (the thing at the left of Opacity on the Layers tab).
6. Using shoe.normal.dds as a guide, the idea is to reorder all of the layers. The result should look like the picture below. I used colors to guide me better.
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7. Do step 5 and 6 with the 2K20 shoe. To know what layer is in front I use some Blending Options (right-click>blending options or double click on the layer). I chose red Color Overlay and a black normal Outer Glow, like the picture below shows. Then Copy Layer Style and Paste Layer Style (both also in the right-click menu of the layer) on all the other layers. Don’t copy the exact order that I have, because is not entirely correct (it needed a little fix).
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8. Like the majority of the guide, you need to change filenames, in this case, of the 26 dds files inside shoe_ed_7607.iff that should be inside their own folder (like I said on step 4). After that is done, the focus must be on that folder of the NBA 2K21 shoe (with the 26 files) and the Photoshop (psd) file of the NBA 2K20 shoe.
9. What I personally did was to enumerate all the layers (dds) on the folder by order (top to bottom) and making clear what layers were the ones with a “_r_” “duplicate” layer (like the picture below). Then look at the psd of the Laser, copy the name of the layer (double click on layer name) and paste the name on the correct dds file on the folder. Do this going from bottom to top. For a more specific example, dds file “026” should be named “base_occlusion.af3eb08a1566a99a” (the name of the last layer). Dds file “025” should be named “base_accent_occlusion.47c6994c4ba906f9” and so on.
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10. Go from 026 to 001 in order. Only one exception: “_r_” layers and their duplicates. Looking at the different pictures about the layers of the NBA 2K21 shoe, I chose to put these layers almost at the start, with two pairs: 002-003 being logo1 and 004-005 being logo2. These should be named after the pairs of the NBA 2K20 shoe, in this case, the order doesn’t matter. Be sure to match “normal” and “_r_” layers. For example, “002logo1r” & “003logo1” became “tongue_logo_r_occlusion.57d62df0b7e59528” & “tongue_logo_occlusion.0b5a0636c9663190”. “004logo2r” & “005logo2” became “heel_logo_r_occlusion.a20415cc3e6c89d6” & “heel_logo_occlusion.f8423ffc05a45ba4”.
11. When all is set and done, drag the 26 dds files with their new name and put them inside shoe_ed_5100.iff.
12. Finally, start the game and look for the shoe in the Shoe Creator. Change the color of the layers and find any problems. If there’s a layer not showing, it’s probably because it needs a reorder. I had that problem with layer “001” and “017” (001 was behind 017 and didn’t show up). Swapping the filenames between them should do the trick. Luckily, the names of the layers on the Shoe Creator are included on their dds filenames. For example, in you have a problem on the Shoe Creator with the Midsole Accent layer, you should fix the dds file named “midsole_accent_occlusion.084e0260aab3ef3c”.
13. That’s all. If every step was followed, the result should look like this.
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*Waigua
1. I’m gonna finish telling where the files should go in Waigua.
2. The following files go to “…NBA 2K20\waigua\shoes”: shoe_ed, shoe_fe, shoe_ng, shoe_sm.
3. The full geo file goes to “…NBA 2K20\waigua\clothing\full”. If you are a perfectionist and also did the lod23 and/or park geo, these go to “…NBA 2K20\waigua\clothing\lod23” and “…NBA 2K20\waigua\clothing\park”.
4. Obviously, if these paths don’t exist, create a new folder.

*Notes
- I’m not gonna post a video tutorial, so I had to go into detail. I REALLY think this is easier than it sounds.
- If someone has anything to ask, don’t DM me, post it here so everyone can see.
- The layers that go into the shoe_ed file CAN be edited, there’s no obligation to use the same ones of the original shoe_ed file (in fact, I changed a couple).
- Why did I change the Curry 3 for the Laser? Because I messed up and did anything without thinking about the shoe_ed. Everything here needs to be done with only one shoe (that has a shoe_ed with at least 26 total dds layers and only 2 dds files with “_r_”).
- I tried using the shoe_style.iff file with another ID to try to use that model in another shoe. Didn’t work.
- THIS: https://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.php?f=258&t=107952
- Why? Two things. If the game crashes, do what it says about TXTR files. If there is a problem, probably is in the shoe_ng file.
- Second. If you want to have previews of the dds files you have in a folder (like it shows on the numbered list picture), open the files of that folder in Photoshop and save it using the setting with alpha layer.
Last edited by bktr025 on Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
This topic was moved from NBA 2K20 Modding by Andrew on Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:23 am.
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby andreis on Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:20 am

This is a great tutorila!! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Maybe you can share the file of that puma rs dreamer since most of us do not have NBA2k1. Thanks :) :) :)
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby Marvin00 on Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:16 pm

that is some effort brother...


PS: i think the issue is that it requires each of us to buy 2k21 to go into the files, and i think many of us who are still in 2k20 don't think the jump is worth spending money on..

Ofcourse if you have time and wish to be kind to help us would be great to get these new models, i wanted to try out KD13 hip hop even thought it's not a new model but the PE was included in the new game, by all means your tutorial is great and thank you for the time you put into this (Y)
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby bktr025 on Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:17 pm

Marvin00 wrote:that is some effort brother...


PS: i think the issue is that it requires each of us to buy 2k21 to go into the files, and i think many of us who are still in 2k20 don't think the jump is worth spending money on..

Ofcourse if you have time and wish to be kind to help us would be great to get these new models, i wanted to try out KD13 hip hop even thought it's not a new model but the PE was included in the new game, by all means your tutorial is great and thank you for the time you put into this (Y)


Maybe I'm wrong but sharing the files could break the rules of this forum. If I'm 100% wrong I don't have a problem doing it.

About the KD13, at least I know that doing all that work is not needed, because the KD13 is already in 2K20.
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby bktr025 on Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:46 am

But I think I can post what I edited, so I'm gonna look to fix some things and I'm gonna upload it soon.
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby andreis on Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:27 pm

bktr025 wrote:But I think I can post what I edited, so I'm gonna look to fix some things and I'm gonna upload it soon.


That's great. I am looking forward to this. Thanks :) :) :)
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby bktr025 on Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:48 am

Here is the link:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/h72ekncq420pn6q/2K20+RS+Dreamer.rar/file

Like I said before, the RS Dreamer replaces the Air Jordan IV Laser.
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby emongnome on Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:53 am

just tried these out, and it's working perfectly so far.. awesome job as always man! (Y) (Y) (Y)
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby bktr025 on Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:14 am

Knowing that not everyone has 2K21, I think I'm gonna make a couple more conversions.
No rushing anything, though.
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby emongnome on Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:52 pm

please do (Y) and, again, many thanks for your work :100:
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby andreis on Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:31 am

thanks for sharing your work (Y)

It is working fine in the shoe creator however there are some glitches when I tried it in an actual game.
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby bktr025 on Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:23 am

Try to share the glitches. The only thing that comes to my mind is to make the other geos (I didn't try the shoes a lot, but the worked fine with me). If it glitches, take a screenshot.
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby andreis on Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:56 am

Here are some screen shots

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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby bktr025 on Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:04 am

If I'm not mistaken, there is a transparency in the shoe? I'm gonna check it out when I have the time.
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby bktr025 on Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:47 am

Sadly, I tried to fix the problem, but it didn't work. So maybe this means it doesn't work as perfect as I thought.
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby gamingsinceatari1 on Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:10 pm

Damn :(
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby emongnome on Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:10 pm

bktr025 wrote:Knowing that not everyone has 2K21, I think I'm gonna make a couple more conversions.
No rushing anything, though.



i'm definitely one of the people sticking with 2K20 over 2K21, so i appreciate very much, the Puma RS Dreamer Mod Conversion you did, even with the glitch :applaud:

i really hope you'll still continue your effort of Shoe Conversions from 2K21 to 2K20.. would be stoked to see the Lebron 18, Kyrie 7, Jordan 35, Dame 7, etc. in 2K20, but honestly, whatever work you put out would be awesome :100:
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby sitew33 on Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:34 am

You have to delete the LODS in the .scene file so that it looks like this:

"player",
"player",
"player",
"player",
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby bktr025 on Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:17 pm

sitew33 wrote:You have to delete the LODS in the .scene file so that it looks like this:

"player",
"player",
"player",
"player",
"player"


Sorry, I haven't been following much. That solves the glitch?
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby bktr025 on Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:56 pm

If someone is still interested in this, it appears that the solution given by sitew33 works. I tested it and, if my eyes are okay, the glitch is gone.
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby olsen on Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:26 pm

Thank you to all modders on this thread especially to bktr025 for your wonderful hardwork. Great job!
I've managed to convert some shoes from 2k21 so we can use in our 2k20.
Air Jordan XXXV will replace Jordan 2009
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Nike Zoom Freak 2 will replace Hyperdunk 2014; Curry 8 will replace Jordan 15
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby Doctor Kicks on Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:34 pm

olsen wrote:Thank you to all modders on this thread especially to bktr025 for your wonderful hardwork. Great job!
I've managed to convert some shoes from 2k21 so we can use in our 2k20.
Air Jordan XXXV will replace Jordan 2009
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Nike Zoom Freak 2 will replace Hyperdunk 2014; Curry 8 will replace Jordan 15
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Yo!! damn this craazy, I was actually tryna convert some models and I ended up with the bugs, I did exactly what bktr indicated...and also tried to do the bug fix by sitew33 but got nothing...maaan.thank you..u saved me!
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby bktr025 on Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:18 am

Great, I thought no one cared about the tutorial. Good to know that I was wrong. If you are gonna share converted shoe, I would recommend to also make your own thread. I don't have a problem at all with you sharing the conversions in here, feel free to do it, but I think there are not many people that visit the tutorials section, especially compared with the modding section. It's some work that really needs to be shown to more people.
About the bugs, like I said in the post, trial-and-error it's very much needed for this. For some reason there are shoes that don't show up like they should.

Also, I'm not gonna read my whole tutorial again, but I don't think I said something about this: if there are not enough shoes with the right amount of layers to work with for the shoe_ed file, the thing that I would do would be to lower the number of total dds files mixing some of the dds files together.
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Using the picture above as an example, I would put layer 019 and 020 on the same file, that way I have more options to choose models with (in this case) 25 total layers.
Why? Because there are some shoes like the Dame 7 that use 28 total layers and just 1 _r_layer. In 2K20 I don't think there's any shoe like that. You need a shoe with 27 layers available to work and there's none like that. Why lower? Because, if you look at my list, shoes with a higher total of dds files usually have a larger number of _r_layers. Meaning that a shoe with 30 layers, is gonna gave like 6 or 7 _r_layers and that means only 24 or 23 normal layers to work with. I didn't test it, but I'm pretty sure that if you use a shoe with 26 total and 2 _r_layers for the Dame 7 would be better. I would bet that even if it has 1 _r_layer more, you can make a transparent layer in one of those _r_layers and it's gonna work just fine.

Last but not least, now that I've seen some interest for this, I updated the 2K21 list with the new shoes added.
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby olsen on Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:03 pm

Here are some more updates:
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Re: GUIDE: Convert 2K21 shoes into 2K20

Postby bktr025 on Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:36 am

It makes me happy watching how fast you have done these. I've always thought I'm not the greatest teacher, but you did it and it looks great.
Your work is very much appreciated and welcomed here, but I still believe you should do a new thread in the 2k20 modding page to share it with more people.
If anybody likes my content and would like to help me a little bit:
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My shoes: viewtopic.php?t=109593
Shoe ID List: (2K20) viewtopic.php?f=259&t=109597 (2K21) viewtopic.php?f=268&t=110654
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