
Welcome to another edition of The Friday Five! Every Friday I cover a topic related to basketball gaming, either as a list of five items, or a Top 5 countdown. The topics for these lists and countdowns include everything from fun facts and recollections to commentary and critique. This week’s Five is a list of five unexpected retro kicks.
As I said in my first Friday Five for February 2024, I’m not going to stop retro gaming anytime soon! It’s a habit that I’ve picked up again with the help of Dee, and I’m quite grateful for that, as grinding up a new MyPLAYER year after year had become an absolute chore. We’ve connected to play a number of different titles over Parsec these past few years, with some of them becoming staples of our co-op rotation. In many cases, I’ve also been inspired to revisit these games solo, leading to some fun sessions and more than a few Wayback Wednesday articles.
Of course, not every game that I revisit turns into a retro kick. I’ll have some fun with it, and then it’s back on the bench, so to speak. However, other games do capture my interest and become regulars in my basketball gaming rotation. These unexpected retro kicks take me by surprise, but I’m always delighted when they happen. Quite often, it leads to me spending time with a game that I didn’t play much when it was new, if at all. As someone with a predisposition to enjoy retro gaming, it’s never too late to give games a second chance and make up for lost time. I have been surprised by some of the titles that ended up hooking me years later though, such as these five.
1. NBA Live 10

When I reflect on the basketball video games that I’ve gone back and forth on over the years, I’ve probably reconsidered NBA Live 2003 the most. All these years later, my stance is that it’s flawed and not everything I wanted it to be, but I still like it. To that end, NBA Live 10 is kind of in the same boat. I’ve never been as critical of it as I was NBA Live 2003, but it’s a release that I soon grew weary of, and ultimately stopped playing in favour of continuing my NBA Live 06 Dynasty. I felt that the second patch for NBA Live 10 did more harm than good, and there’s some merit to that. At the same time, I may have just been unlucky enough to have had a few rough games.
After all, it’s been a staple of my Parsec sessions with Dee, both co-op and head-to-head. We’ve been able to put the Fantasy Teams mode to great use, assembling fun squads and makeshift retro teams that have produced fantastic highlights and highly enjoyable virtual hardwood clashes. That fun has carried over into my solo sessions, and while I do recognise the game’s shortcomings, its strengths became far more apparent during my unexpected retro kick. I couldn’t get enough of it, including tinkering with its rosters to create a bevy of Wayback Wednesday content. I never hated NBA Live 10, but revisiting it did retroactively make it an all-time favourite.
2. NBA 2K14 for PlayStation 4

I know I’ve told the story in a few other articles and on the NLSC Podcast, but it adds important context that explains why NBA 2K14 for PlayStation 4 – an outstanding release – became one of my unexpected retro kicks. I was still warming up to the NBA 2K series in 2013, even though I’d had a blast with NBA 2K13 on PC. As a long-time NBA Live gamer, I was also excited to see the series finally coming back, and hoping for the best. It didn’t exactly work out that way, and even before both games came out, I saw some NBA 2K developers and reps taking a victory lap on social media. Their jeering rubbed me the wrong way, and I felt sour heading into NBA 2K14’s release.
To that point, I found fault in everything. The feel of player movement, the new story in MyCAREER, MyGM being RPG-based and utilising VC to unlock basic functions; nothing satisfied me, and I quickly put the game aside. Now, amidst my pre-emptive sourness are some valid criticisms, but when I gave the game a second chance on a whim back in 2021, it won me over at long last. I’ve now sunk as many hours into it as just about any other basketball game, playing into my sixth season of MyCAREER. The quality of NBA 2K14 Next Gen doesn’t make this an unthinkable retro kick, but my initial attitude and experiences definitely make it an unexpected one in hindsight.
3. NBA Live 06 for Xbox 360

Based on a couple of comments on our YouTube channel when I was in the midst of a retro kick with NBA Live 06 for Xbox 360, at least one person was dismayed to see it. To them, I can only say: sorry, not sorry! Snarky responses aside, I do understand that the Xbox 360 version of NBA Live 06 wasn’t a beloved release, and does have a number of issues. However, when you look past those issues, there’s a surprisingly solid and fun basketball game! It’s impossible to say that without sounding like an NBA Live fanboy looking back with rose-coloured glasses, but for a long time, I was just as dismissive of it as most gamers. And then, I revisited it with an open mind.
That’s how I came to appreciate what a leap in graphics it was, and how good some of the player faces and environmental details still look. Adjusting the sliders improved the action on the court, speeding it up and reducing some of the cheap fouls. Playing around with some roster editing set up several fun exhibition games, which was all that I was looking to play. Yes, the lack of depth is a valid criticism that I share, and it’s not the best game on the sticks. Realising that the gameplay experience was better than I’d thought for so long led to NBA Live 06 for Xbox 360 becoming one of my most unexpected retro kicks, though. I’m glad that it did, even if one viewer wasn’t!
4. NBA 2K6 for Xbox 360

Ten years ago, if you’d told me that the Xbox 360 version of NBA 2K6 would become one of my favourite basketball video games, I’d have been highly sceptical to say the least! It definitely holds that status though, after a period of it being one of my most unexpected retro kicks. As I’ve noted many times before, I’m not a fan of the original Isomotion dribbling controls that, in my view, NBA 2K stubbornly stuck with for far too long. Approaching those older NBA 2K titles with more patience and an open mind has allowed me to get used to it, but it’ll never be my preferred approach to dribbling controls. In critiquing those games, I’d still call Isomotion a key drawback.
Despite that, I really, really enjoy playing NBA 2K6 for Xbox 360! I recall being unimpressed with the PlayStation 2 version when I gave it a shot back in the day, but again, I wasn’t used to Isomotion. The inclusion of Charles Barkley kept drawing me to the Xbox 360 version, and the more time I spent with it, the more I appreciated the depth of its modes and gameplay; even without my ideal dribbling mechanics. I’ve enjoyed several NBA 2K games after giving them a second look with fresh eyes, but they’ve usually been more recent titles, and they don’t necessarily become favourites or extended retro kicks. As such, NBA 2K6 is a game that really took me by surprise!
5. NBA Live 18

Like NBA Live 2003, I’ve gone back and forth with my overall opinion of NBA Live 18 over the years, to the point where I’ve absolutely been too harsh on it at times. In fact, when I revisited NBA Live 18 for Wayback Wednesday, I strongly disagreed with some of the earlier comments that I made when I reviewed the game for our 25th Anniversary of NBA Live celebrations. I did have fair criticisms, particularly when it came to modes and content, but I seemingly forgot how much I’d enjoyed my journey through Ultimate Team using 90s Legends. In fact, after giving up on NBA 2K18, NBA Live 18 was frequently in my basketball gaming rotation for the rest of its cycle.
With that being said, I wouldn’t say that NBA Live 18 became an all-time favourite, and previous revisits hadn’t inspired me to bring it back into my rotation. And then, Dee and I played it over Parsec using the Xbox App, and had a fun session that I’d suggest surprised both of us! I had to see if it was a fluke, or perhaps the product of it being a co-op game. Playing through a few challenges in Ultimate Team reminded me of the fun I’d had with it back in 2018, which in turn left me reconsidering what I’d written in my aforementioned retrospective review. I definitely wasn’t expecting that, but as with the other unexpected retro kicks, it was a joy to be surprised in that way.
For those who enjoy going wayback with old favourites or giving games you didn’t like the first time around a second look, which titles surprised you the most? Did any of them become unexpected retro kicks? Let me know in the comments, and as always, feel free to take the discussion to the NLSC Forum! That’s all for this week, so thanks for checking in, have a great weekend, and please join me again next Friday for another Five.
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Good read Andrew.
Kinda jealous of your love for the Live games, i didnt game that much back on the 360 days, came in late (2013ish) on that gen, so except a very early nba Live,96 maybe? i didnt play much basketball back then, mainly PES/FIfa/NHL and my latest NBA live experience with the franchise was 19 on the XBOX one.
Too bad its not around anymore. kept 2k on the right track tbh.
Except the 2k14 Mycareer any more careers going on any other games?
I have a hard time just playing exhibition games etc more of a myleague guy so keeping careers going on 3-4 games is quite the challenge:)
Got one on 2k16 and two on 2k15 and 19 right now.
Gotta say my one on 16 is fantastic, two seasons in with the Pistons, first year a conf semi, this year 12th in my conf with 20sih games to go, very much a challenge
19 first season with the Knicks, going very well, playoff and very much contenders there.
But my most challenging one is on 2k15, a very underated game, between two of the great games in 14-16, no player lock and very basic sim possibilities, though great gameplay with sliders, and playing PG alonside Kobe is so much fun.
But like i said, tough juggling three at once for sure.
Is the 360 version of 2k16 much different from the XB1 version (XB1 version Goat in my eyes)?
Glad you love the 2k14 Mycareer, brilliant game for sure
As always a fun read guys
NBA Live 96 PC is one of my all-time favourites, so I could see that one coming back into the rotation at some point! Might not be totally unexpected given my nostalgia for it, but it’s been a while since it was a regular.
I’ve only got the one MyCAREER actively going at the moment, the one in NBA 2K14. Unfortunately the connected files I had in NBA 2K17, NBA 2K19, and NBA 2K20 are no longer accessible with the server shutdowns. I’m intending to do a proper playthrough of NBA 2K15 MyCAREER as it’s the only one from that generation that I haven’t given a real chance as yet, and as you said, 2K15 is an underrated game in general.
I haven’t played the last gen version of NBA 2K16, but I recently played the PS3 version of NBA 2K18 and I’ve also played NBA 2K15 on that generation. They’re much closer to NBA 2K14 PC than any of the PS4/X1 versions that were later ported to Steam.
Thanks for reading! Always nice to get comments on my articles.
Its really underated (15) feels a lot like 14 tbh, with the B button to call for screens and no bounce/lob pass buttons like from 16 and fw.
One thing that has me sold on my Myleague with 15 is the fact that its not as “sticky” like the games that followed after 15
I do really love 2K16 on XB1 and pc but the glue/stickiness from the cpu can be really annoying at times.
Plus i do see animations, hard fouls, people running into screens and falling over winded, do really see that in games anymore.
An underated title for sure, really enjoiying it, too bad i got two more careers going…
I’ve been a bit picky about which modes I get into. NBA 2K14 MyCAREER is a great ongoing experience to fall back on, but I’ve honestly really enjoyed just revisiting a variety of games, setting up historical scenarios in exhibition games and so forth.
The main thing at the end of the day is to enjoy basketball gaming, and I realised that when I was focused on grinding and daily agendas, I wasn’t having fun with it. Left that all behind, but I know I’ll get stuck into some franchise gaming and so forth, when I feel inspired to do so!
Absolutely get that.
I find it quite relaxing just playing a Myleague career ATM, not wheeling and dealing to much.
But setting up scenarios regardless of mode is really fun, my MO is picking the crappiest team and try to get from a set point A to b within a timeframe.
Btw, bought an used Xbox today, dusted off my MC on 14, first season with The Jazz.
This game is so brilliant.
And thank you cloud save, I can pick up all my settings/rosters/draft classes since the are all saved there for 2k14-21
But man, 14 is something.
I often default to choosing the Bulls for franchise mode games, but in the early 2000s – when they weren’t so fun to play with – I was all over trying to find the most interesting scenarios!
Cloud saves definitely come in handy. Helped me transfer everything from PS4 to PS5…everything that would transfer, anyway…
Ha ha got it, kinda sucks when your team is down the crapper.
Im not a fan that has a team, well the Knicks but im not going to die on that hill, i enjoy watching pretty much all teams with a few exceptions.
On the other hand,massive football(soccer) fan, and my local team has been around since 1889 and won two titles, so i feel you Andrew.
Jumped the gun on my cloud saves btw, my old titles 14-15-16-17 were alright, most stuff was saved after the servers shut down, but 19-20-21 are gone for sure.
Still hammering away on my 2k16 save with the Pistons, 2nd season and with 8 games left climbing up to a 8th seed, back from the dead.
And my recent start of a 2k15 Myleague with the Lakers, 10 games in, Kobe is out for 3 months, things are looking tough for me there, but i love the scenario.
Will the 6″3 swedish rookie on a min 1 year deal turn things around?
Have a good one down there buddy
I’m out of luck with my NBA 2K17 MyCAREER on PS4. It is possible to convert an online save to an offline save even after the servers have shut down, but you can’t have installed the game after the server shutdown. Found that out the hard way. It’s also how I lost access to the Dream Team on both PC and PS4.
Oh man that sucks.
always felt cheated by 2k having it that way.
I have rosters/careers/sliders on my old fifa games that are still alive.
Think we should have acces to our created downloaded contet on 2k as well, but there you go
Agreed, it’d be nice if they at least let us download final roster updates and activate/convert old saves. Of course, that doesn’t gel with making us move on to buy the newest title, so I’m not confident of it ever happening, sadly.
Guess theres a reason both EA and 2k has made it impossible to get older games digitally.
Me neither, were kinda screwed on that unfortunately.
Licensing as well. When NBA Live 06 PS2 included an emulated version of NBA Live 95 for the tenth anniversary of the series, they had to replace all the players with fictional placeholders; even the few that were still active as of the 2006 season! That makes it harder to keep selling the old games and pretty much rules out remastered versions (except community mods, of course), but with that being said, the server shutdowns feel like they come around very quickly. 27 months sounds long, but it’s here before we know it.
Live 18 is alive but no Ultimate Team items are being sold, as I booted it the other day on my X1. But I run a nice team led by Dirk, Rip, Zik, and more! It has a torn as you can’t relish end game stats upon its ending – it counts coins and redirects to the UT menu in sequence (unlike Live 16 or Live 19). On the contrary, Live 19’s stock is still pretty much robust. But it has 5k vs. 500 challenges, and they’re long-drawn-out.
I’ve noticed that too. During my first few sessions back with it, there were a few items in the Auction House, indicating that a handful of people were still playing the game and forming a small community with LUT, but recently it’s been empty, so it looks like they’ve moved on.